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kaatochacha


quality posts: 0 Private Messages kaatochacha

I've got this camera, got it a few years ago, GREAT camera! I think I paid something similar for it back then, perhaps a little bit more. Nothing but pleased.

kwacknd


quality posts: 3 Private Messages kwacknd

I've found the reviews at the following site to be very helpful, and they offer same pictures taken with the specific camera to give you an idea of its capabilities. If I didn't already have a nice Nikon (which I love), I would go here http://www.dpreview.com/products/nikon/slrs/nikon_d90 , check out the specs, and come back to Woot to take the deal!

A direct link to the sample pictures can be found here: http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/reviewsamples/albums/nikon-d90-preview-samples

zxinfinity


quality posts: 14 Private Messages zxinfinity

$731 @ Ryther Camera:
http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=31541 Different lens though.. This one at Woot zooms in more (18-55 vs 18-105).

$769 for the 18-105
http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=30971

editorkid


quality posts: 83 Private Messages editorkid

I've used this camera since it came out and have nothing but high praise for it. The included lens is pretty solid; I've also bought the 105mm macro lens for nature pics and the 70-300mm zoom for better telephoto work. It's also compatible with the Lensbaby lenses if you want to experiment with effects similar to tilt-shift. And there are tons of accessories.

It will take a good long while to outgrow this camera. Fantastic performer and it's even survived a couple of chest-level drops.

Thanks to the freshly returned and ever-vivacious ThunderThighs for OKing a link to my site, pixelsbybob. When the site loads, you'll be on the first of the two pages in the "Top 40" section. Feel free to poke around, especially if it helps persuade you to buy this great camera!

Ninkumpoop


quality posts: 24 Private Messages Ninkumpoop
zxinfinity wrote:$731 @ Ryther Camera:
http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=31541


That is the same camera, much cheaper lens. Here is the comparable camera and lens: http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=30971 $769, much better deal to get the 18-105 lens.

Edit: The linked retailer does appear to be selling "gray" market items. You'll receive the camera, but don't expect much assistance if you need warranty help.

Golf11


quality posts: 2 Private Messages Golf11
zxinfinity wrote:$731 @ Ryther Camera:
http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=31541 Different lens though.. This one at Woot zooms in more (18-55 vs 18-105).

$769 for the 18-105
http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=30971



The 18-55mm is usually the standard "cheap" kit lens, which is a good place to start for most beginners. Darn, wished I had waited...just bought a Canon to replace my nikon P&S.

kenlibcampbell


quality posts: 1 Private Messages kenlibcampbell

I have the Nikon D50, D80, & D90 and will agree that the D90 is a great camera, however firmware and SD card technology has already made my older D50 a shelf camera...and I'm afraid that the D90 is about 5-7 years from being in the same boat, with SDXC cards already here. As most DSLR camera's are considered an investment we can only hope for a firmware upgrade....otherwise stock up on SDHC cards NOW!!!!

michaelvella


quality posts: 10 Private Messages michaelvella

this is an excellent camera. has been for quite some time.
my advice, however is that one look at the d5100 at the same time for the same money (with this lens) or spend a few hundred more and get the best enthusiast camera ever made - the d7000.
IMO.

visionep


quality posts: 0 Private Messages visionep

Why would someone want this camera over a D5100 or D7000?

I thought Costco was selling the D7000 for ~$900 but after looking again it is the D5100. Still the D7000 seems similarly priced to the D90 but is much better.

Also snapsort.com rates the other two cameras better than the D90. Are there key features that the D90 has that make it superior to the 7000 and 5100?

saltlakecityty


quality posts: 2 Private Messages saltlakecityty
visionep wrote:Why would someone want this camera over a D5100 or D7000?



While the D90 is a great camera, I think everyone looking should be asking themselves that same question. I've used the D80, D90, D5100, and D7000 and the D7000 is the best of the bunch by far. Just spend a few hundred more and get a camera you'll absolutely love for years to come. I wouldn't be disappointed with a D90 if that's what you can afford but if you get a chance to play with a D7000 afterwards you'll definitely feel a bit lusty.

MichXelle


quality posts: 18 Private Messages MichXelle
visionep wrote:Why would someone want this camera over a D5100 or D7000?

I thought Costco was selling the D7000 for ~$900 but after looking again it is the D5100. Still the D7000 seems similarly priced to the D90 but is much better.

Also snapsort.com rates the other two cameras better than the D90. Are there key features that the D90 has that make it superior to the 7000 and 5100?

A great question. I hope the photography guru's have some answers.

ranger1884


quality posts: 0 Private Messages ranger1884
MichXelle wrote:A great question. I hope the photography guru's have some answers.



The D90 will autofocus screw-mount lenses, while the D5100 will not. That's important if you use lenses that do not have the built-in (AF-S) motor. Most lenses made by Nikon today are AF-S, so this isn't a big deal. The D90 is larger than the D5100, but about the same size as the D7000 - but neither are huge.

The D5100 and D7000 have the same sensor - which is far superior to that of the D90. This means the D90 will not perform nearly as well in lower light as the two newer cameras.

I've been shooting with Nikon for about 25 years and have owned just about every DSLR that they've ever made - including the three I just mentioned. But I sold the D90 in favor of the D5100...which I sold to buy the D7000 for a lightweight travel camera. It's the best option, but it's just a bit more expensive.

lwang


quality posts: 19 Private Messages lwang

Is this lens one of those cheepie lenses with all plastic parts? Does it at least have a metal bayonet mount?

Any idea of the viewfinder magnification? Is it 1X with at 35mm lens?

ranger1884 wrote:The D90 will autofocus screw-mount lenses, while the D5100 will not. That's important if you use lenses that do not have the built-in (AF-S) motor. Most lenses made by Nikon today are AF-S, so this isn't a big deal. The D90 is larger than the D5100, but about the same size as the D7000 - but neither are huge.



That means I can put my EL-Nikkor screw mount lens and it can turn it into autofokus? Does it have a rubber roller on the outside that turns the fokus nawb?

justinrageth


quality posts: 0 Private Messages justinrageth
Golf11 wrote:The 18-55mm is usually the standard "cheap" kit lens, which is a good place to start for most beginners. Darn, wished I had waited...just bought a Canon to replace my nikon P&S.



dont worry, canon is great. I have the t2i and love it..but i wannna get a 7d!

gantt


quality posts: 10 Private Messages gantt

If this is New, I'm wondering why it comes with a "90 Day Woot Limited Warranty" and not a Nikon USA warranty. I thought a 90 Day Woot Limited Warranty usually accompanies refurbished products.

bigbillyt


quality posts: 1 Private Messages bigbillyt

I recently purchased the D5100 and I am quite happy with it. As a few others have pointed out the D5100 and D7000 share the same higher megapixel sensor with better low light performance. The advantages of the D90 over the D5100 are the ability to use an older generation of auto focus lenses which are often much cheaper than the newer versions (although AF performance is often slower) as well as better controls to manage settings. The advantages over the D7000 are the price and arguably a simpler user experience. This is not from my own experience, but from reading dozens of reviews for both cameras. There are a large number of reviews that suggest there are issues with the D7000 that are either a quality control problem on Nikon's part and/or a complexity of design that causes users to struggle with getting good images based on the various settings for exposure and auto focus control. The included lens is actually very good but does have a plastic mount so it is not as durable as some other more expensive options.

Bottom line, if you either already have some older AF lenses or do mostly outdoor shooting in bright light this is a great deal. Otherwise you might want to look closer at the D5100.

VeeDubb65


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michaelvella wrote:
my advice, however is that one look at the d5100 at the same time for the same money (with this lens) or spend a few hundred more and get the best enthusiast camera ever made - the d7000.
IMO.



While I agree that the d7000 is the best 'enthusiast' camera out there, given that it outperforms all but the very latest of pro and semi-pro bodies in several areas, I think the suggestion that the 5100 is in some way superior to the D90 must be a bad joke and I'm just not getting the punchline.

For it's intended audience, the D90 is a superb camera, and the 5100 is a toy. The 5100 doesn't even have a focus motor, which means it can only use the latest lenses with built in focus motors, forcing you to spend 2-3 times as much for a brand new lens when some of the older lenses like the nikon 50mm f1.8D can be bought used for a song and have far better image quality than their newer counterparts unless you're willing to spend an arm and a leg.

The 5100 also has grossly stipped down controls, making it a poor choice for any serious photographer.

If you want a camera that looks and feels like a small SLR, but plan to leave it in auto or program mode most of the time and don't want to actually learn how a real camera work, the 5100 will certainly take better pictures.

If you want a real SLR that will help you bridge the gap between toys like the 5100 and the pro/semi-pro bodies like the 300s, 800, 4 and the rumored 400, the D90 is the way to go. Of course, the other good option would be to bite the bullet and buy the 7000. It's a lot more money, but it is better than the 90.

As for the low-light and resolution comments several people have made, lets be realistic. Digital SLR cameras surpassed the capabilities of film in both areas years ago. Yes, the 5100 has somewhat better low-light performance, but it's the difference between being able to take a goo picture in a cave with nothing but a candle, or the ability to take a picture in a cave with nothing but two candles. Buy a few decent lenses, and you'll never turn your ISO above 1000 or 1200 again anyway. As for the resolution, 35mm film, which is good enough for movie posters and billboards, is roughly the equivalent of a 6mp digital. Years ago I shot weddings with a 6.2MP camera and nobody had one negative word to say about the quality. Of all possible considerations, the resolution of the sensor is generally the least important outside of a marketing campaign.

searchneverend


quality posts: 2 Private Messages searchneverend

i'm in market currently for a D7000. Did match and cross reference and read 100'2 of reviews for D700, D5100 and D90 and D7000 is out standing and will out perform the other 2. My friend is a photography major along with making and editing videos and she showed me some of the shots she took with D7000 and its mind blowing.

1) D90 has only one slot for SDHC card vs D7000 where u can install 2 cards and use them simultaneously.

2) D7000 has comes with dual motors that prevents shaking of pictures vs only 1 on a D90.

3) D90 has no dust guard(weather seal) vs D7000 which has one.

4) Shutter speed on D7000 is 4 times faster D90, i think its 1/8000 vs 1/4000(D90)

5) D90 has no contrast detection vs D7000 which has one.

6) Biggest and probably the best advantage D7000 has over D90 is that D7000 has full 1080P HD vs only 720P for D90

7) D90 shoots at 4.5s fps vs 6s for D7000

8) D90 gives you only 850 shoots on a single battery charge vs 1050 shots for D7000.

9) D90 is a 12.2 MP vs 16.1MP for D7000

10) oh before i forget, D7000 has an external mic jack while no such option is available on D90

11) for extra $200 that you will spend on warranty anyways its crazy not to buy a new D7000 that already come with a 1 year warranty.

12) D7000 is the only nikon camera in mid level range that is capable of capturing a continuous 20 min video.

13) D90 is an entry level DSLR vs D7000 which is a mid level DSLR. D7000 is for those who are serious about their camera and quality of pictures they take.

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bmel


quality posts: 6 Private Messages bmel

I have had the D90 with a 50mm 1.8 prime for the last 4 years. Loved every second of it. My FIL has the canon equivalent and when ever I have used it it was just not as nice as my D90.
He is a canon freak that has "never" used anything but.. Well the first time he held my D90 you could tell he was wishing it was his. He spent most the day "trying it out" and trying to point out flaws. But for soemone who thought his was better he sure never put it down. ;)

I have dropped the D90 a few times even and it has yet to have anything go wrong. One time it even fell about 5 feet!

The lens that comes with this is a so so at best. At an f/3.5 you are not going to have much luck in low lights. Think well lit room at the darkest.
A good flash will help this but really this is a outdoor daytime lens.

If you are even thinking about using this for indoor non-flash you are going to need a prime.

But again, the 50mm 1.8 prime is a great place to start and learn from. Plus it will only set you back about 100$. (85$ ish used)
For it coming with a lens (even a kit lens) this is a nice price.
You might find a bit better if you waited till black Friday but this is not a bad deal.

I paid 900$ new 4 years ago. Good solid camera to own.

Also, do yourself a favor and pick up a copy of Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson if you have never had a slr before.
It will help you a great deal to get better photos from it.

VeeDubb65


quality posts: 2 Private Messages VeeDubb65
bmel wrote:I have had the D90 with a 50mm 1.8 prime for the last 4 years. Loved every second of it. My FIL has the canon equivalent and when ever I have used it it was just not as nice as my D90.
He is a canon freak that has "never" used anything but.. Well the first time he held my D90 you could tell he was wishing it was his. He spent most the day "trying it out" and trying to point out flaws. But for soemone who thought his was better he sure never put it down. ;)

I have dropped the D90 a few times even and it has yet to have anything go wrong. One time it even fell about 5 feet!

The lens that comes with this is a so so at best. At an f/3.5 you are not going to have much luck in low lights. Think well lit room at the darkest.
A good flash will help this but really this is a outdoor daytime lens.

If you are even thinking about using this for indoor non-flash you are going to need a prime.

But again, the 50mm 1.8 prime is a great place to start and learn from. Plus it will only set you back about 100$. (85$ ish used)
For it coming with a lens (even a kit lens) this is a nice price.
You might find a bit better if you waited till black Friday but this is not a bad deal.

I paid 900$ new 4 years ago. Good solid camera to own.

Also, do yourself a favor and pick up a copy of Understanding Exposure by Bryan Peterson if you have never had a slr before.
It will help you a great deal to get better photos from it.



Well put, and if you didn't know, Mr. Peterson has another book out now called "Understanding Flash Photography." Once you've really taken in all the lessons in Understanding Exposure and you're ready to really get your hands dirty with a proper flash, it's a great book.

charliecarroll


quality posts: 97 Private Messages charliecarroll
Ninkumpoop wrote:That is the same camera, much cheaper lens. Here is the comparable camera and lens: http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=30971 $769, much better deal to get the 18-105 lens.



Do you know if Ryther Camera is offering this as a gray market price or is it full US Warranty by Nikon? Check before you buy from them about that. If it is some aftermarket warranty they offer by their name or any other than Nikon then it is Gray Market meaning the camera was not originally shipped to the USA and has not been through the Nikon USA plant for inspection, packaging and USA WARRANTY. If the offer they have is with a full USA Nikon Warranty, jump on it because that is a great buy. If not, come back to woot and get this one. The very few bucks extra is well worth the backing of Nikon. Why? if it is Gray Market and you have a problem you will have to ship your camera to them or a vendor and wait to get it back. No other person to call for customer service or complaints. If it has a full USA Warranty from Nikon and you have a problem you can simply walk in any Camera store that is a Nikon dealer and have it shipped to Nikon and back to the store for your pick up. You also have the full backing of the manufacturer, Nikon. Lastly there are three things that make me suspect Ryther is offering a Gray Market product. 1. The price is much lower than the average discounted price for the product. 2.You notice there is no mention of warranty at all on the product page or specifications. That is usually a dead give away. 3. If you check deep enough on their site you will find "their" warranty statement and it is as follows,

"Warranties"

"All products are covered by a one year parts and 90 day labor warranty, unless otherwise stated on the product page. In some cases where the manufacturer warranty does not apply, products are covered by RytherCamera or a 3rd party warranty may be purchased for an additional cost.
RytherCamera.com carries both US and Import/Gray Market products which are not covered by the original manufacturer’s warranty. On Imported Items, RytherCamera.com will provide warranty service on the products. Products for repair must be accompanied by the receipt or bill of sale."

Now buying Gray Market has it's advantages at times such as a lower price but it has it's pit falls too such as warranty problems and even possibly having to ship your camera back, to Japan for repairs rather than Nikon making them here in the USA for non warranty work. You just half to weigh money and risks and decide. Woot plus shipping compared to Rythers offer with free shipping comes to $50.99 difference. IF Ryther's offer is with a Gray Market warranty, me personally, I would pay the extra and go with the woot offer. However, I never buy Gray Market.

dgloff


quality posts: 0 Private Messages dgloff

A DSLR, for most people, is a long-term investment, so I don't understand the point of buying so far behind the curve. The D90 is over 4 years old. For people who already have one, that's fine, it still has several useful years left. But now is not the right time to get into one, IMO.

When I buy a DSLR, I don't want to buy another one for 5-6 years. This is why I got a D70, and waited until the D7000 came out to replace it. None of the intervening models had all the features I wanted, but the D7000 was perfect, so I preordered it, and don't expect to replace it until the latter part of this decade. With a D90, I'd be buying a replacement in 2-3 years.

D7000 body only is ~$200 more than this kit, or ~$450 more with the same lens. In either case, you'd get the Nikon standard 1/5 year warranty, vs. the 90 days on this one (and likely having Nikon USA refusing even paid repairs due to it being grey market). In my mind, that's a small additional cost to pay for the added longevity and actually having support from the manufacturer if you need it.

thomas998


quality posts: 17 Private Messages thomas998
dgloff wrote:A DSLR, for most people, is a long-term investment......it.



Sorry, but I don't think a digital camera should ever be considered an investment. Investments are things you expect to increase in value over time.... Digital cameras never do that, I have a closet full of them, dating back to the first dslr and none of the are worth anything close to what they cost.

johnbelletti


quality posts: 0 Private Messages johnbelletti

You can get this from Amazon much cheaper. Come on WOOT! You can do better than this.

radi0j0hn


quality posts: 78 Private Messages radi0j0hn
Golf11 wrote:The 18-55mm is usually the standard "cheap" kit lens, which is a good place to start for most beginners. Darn, wished I had waited...just bought a Canon to replace my Nikon P&S.



Attn "Gym photographers:" Please note the above. The lens spends most of it's maximum: f/3.5 - 5.6 at 5.6, which is not a large enough opening to get that action-freezing shot of your little darling in sports action.

Crank up the ISO to the highest setting, go aperture priority and set the lens to the largest aperture and cross your fingers.

If that doesn't work for you, you MUST buy a "faster" lens (big $$$) or wait until cameras have even higher ISOs...in a few years.

Don't like either choice,? Then leave the camera home and sit back and enjoy the game.

acpress.com Not cute, but useful.

radi0j0hn


quality posts: 78 Private Messages radi0j0hn

Plastic parts in lenses and bodies have been around since the 70's. Get over it.

There are a heck of a lot more plastic Canon AE-1s from the 70's still working than all metal Pentax K-100s, etc.

acpress.com Not cute, but useful.

radi0j0hn


quality posts: 78 Private Messages radi0j0hn
dgloff wrote:A DSLR, for most people, is a long-term investment, so I don't understand the point of buying so far behind the curve. The D90 is over 4 years old. For people who already have one, that's fine, it still has several useful years left. But now is not the right time to get into one, IMO.

When I buy a DSLR, I don't want to buy another one for 5-6 years. This is why I got a D70, and waited until the D7000 came out to replace it. None of the intervening models had all the features I wanted, but the D7000 was perfect, so I preordered it, and don't expect to replace it until the latter part of this decade. With a D90, I'd be buying a replacement in 2-3 years.



I mention in my my book that digital cameras for consumers are only about 12 years old.

Imagine the state of cars when they were 12 years old compared to now. We are still in the early time of rapid change as makers try to figure out what works and what people want.

So put you money into quality LENSES, which will probably fit the camera body of choice for quite a few years (unless the company dumps the mount for urgent technical reasons, as Canon did with the old FD mount.)

acpress.com Not cute, but useful.

whytcolr


quality posts: 1 Private Messages whytcolr
ranger1884 wrote:The D5100 and D7000 have the same sensor - which is far superior to that of the D90. This means the D90 will not perform nearly as well in lower light as the two newer cameras.



The sensor in the D5100 and D7000 is not _far_ superior. This sensor test shows a less than 25% ISO test difference, which works out to being less than 1/3EV -- basically negligible.

There are a bunch of reasons to consider the D7000 or D5100, but sensor sensitivity isn't one of them. If we were comparing the sensor on a D80, D70, or even a D300, the sensor would be a consideration, but the D90's sensor compares favorably with the low and mid-end current generation.

Edit: If anyone's interested, they can compare reference images here.

bbkf


quality posts: 1 Private Messages bbkf

finally a real camera on here.

Don't buy this camera because it can shoot video. if you want to shoot video, buy a video camera.

timthetortoise


quality posts: 4 Private Messages timthetortoise
visionep wrote:Why would someone want this camera over a D5100 or D7000?



For the D5100, features and autofocus built in to the body. For the D7000, price.

That said, this is not a good deal. For a meager price difference, you can have the D7000, which actually is a very big upgrade from this. Make sure, however, that you actually want the bulk of a DSLR. I made the mistake of thinking I did, and now am switching to mirrorless because of the inconvenience of trying to hike/climb with a heavy DSLR strapped to me.

mgradyc


quality posts: 0 Private Messages mgradyc
johnbelletti wrote:You can get this from Amazon much cheaper. Come on WOOT! You can do better than this.



This kit is currently $1,049 @ amazon. It is $811.90 for the body only.

samgrace0614


quality posts: 0 Private Messages samgrace0614

Can someone help me out? Right noe, I own a d3100. Do you think I stick to d3100 or get this one? Ive also bought 55-200mm to make it better?please advise.

bigbillyt


quality posts: 1 Private Messages bigbillyt

Just a few other thoughts relative to what some other folks have posted here. A quick qualifier: I have been shooting 35mm, and prior to digital cameras 2 1/4, for 35 years. I have had many digital cameras from the very early Sony models that took a floppy disk all the way up to several Canon and Nikon DSLRs.

I see some people saying that the D5100 is not really comparable to this camera. Well it may not be quite as rugged (the shutter may not have the same MTBF etc.) but for most purposes has all the abilities you would want even for basic professional work. It can shoot RAW format, has a reasonably fast time between shots, auto focuses very quickly and you can completely control exposure and AF functionality. Also the ability to switch to live view and to have a tilt and swivel large EVF is hugely benificial. Besides that, the concept of buying a number of older lenses is somewhat over rated as well. If you don't already have them, the only one that is a significant bargain is the 50mm D series. The image quality difference betwen that and the newer G series is also debatable. I know the older 80-200 2.8 seems attractive but AF performance will be slower and there are comparable after market alternatives for a similar price. Plus, not many people wil be looking at $1000 plus lenses anyway even for the average wedding, grip and grin kind of photography. All I am saying is I would not completely discount the D5100 as a viable alternative.

As far as the D7000 goes, if you have the time and patience for a steeper learning curve and you have the extra cash, which if you factor in the lens is a $400-500 price difference, then by all means go for it.

SolidBob


quality posts: 2 Private Messages SolidBob
zxinfinity wrote:$731 @ Ryther Camera:
http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=31541 Different lens though.. This one at Woot zooms in more (18-55 vs 18-105).

$769 for the 18-105
http://www.rythercamera.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=30971



Do not buy from these retailers. The price is too low to be good and I've found that out personally. I "purchased" a Canon t3i from a similar place and they gave me the run around. Emailed me that my order has to be verified by calling. I called and they tried to upsell me the whole time, said I needed a faster SD card so my pictures wont blur (Wait! There's Homework?) and then they sent me "new" camera 4 weeks later, not in original packaging with 1k shutter actuations.
Amazon, B&H or Adorama can be compared to have the lowest prices. Anything lower is too good to be true.

filemaniac


quality posts: 5 Private Messages filemaniac
samgrace0614 wrote:Can someone help me out? Right noe, I own a d3100. Do you think I stick to d3100 or get this one? Ive also bought 55-200mm to make it better?please advise.



Honestly, this depends on your shooting level and uses. The D3100 is targeted towards entry level DSLR photographers while the D90 is towards the prosumer market.

To be honest, if you went for the D3100 initially, I would stick with it. Also note that a lens with a longer focal length doesn't necessarily make it better. It just gives you zoom options.

There a few comparison posts and reviews which may help:

http://artoftheimage.blogspot.com/2010/08/nikon-d3100-vs-nikon-d90.html

http://artoftheimage.blogspot.com/2010/09/3-reasons-to-buy-nikon-d90-over-nikon.html

http://snapsort.com/compare/Nikon_D3100-vs-Nikon_D90

Right now, I have a D7000 that I traded up to from a D5000. Before that, I used a Coolpix 5700 for years until I felt comfortable going DSLR. I am seriously considering the D90 as a secondary camera so I'm not constantly changing lenses. (Of course, my shoulder and camera bag won't be thanking me!) I shoot very little video and while it's a useful feature, I think I've used it 3 times since I've gotten the D7000, so the 720p vs 1080p video resolutions really doesn't bother me.

filemaniac


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SolidBob wrote:Do not buy from these retailers. The price is too low to be good and I've found that out personally. I "purchased" a Canon t3i from a similar place and they gave me the run around. Emailed me that my order has to be verified by calling. I called and they tried to upsell me the whole time, said I needed a faster SD card so my pictures wont blur (Wait! There's Homework?) and then they sent me "new" camera 4 weeks later, not in original packaging with 1k shutter actuations.
Amazon, B&H or Adorama can be compared to have the lowest prices. Anything lower is too good to be true.



Hear, hear. Gray market is good for some things, but not when it comes to wanting warranty work done or making certain you have genuine merchandise.

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thomas998 wrote:Sorry, but I don't think a digital camera should ever be considered an investment. Investments are things you expect to increase in value over time.... Digital cameras never do that, I have a closet full of them, dating back to the first dslr and none of the are worth anything close to what they cost.



IMO you are over-construing the word "investment" Clearly a digital camera is not a real investment, but what the OP meant was that "DSLRs are expensive and few non-enthusiasts upgrade frequently". The D90 is a fine camera, but is old, by dslr standards. It can still take great pictures, but better can be had for one's $. Poor word choice by the OP, perhaps, but nonetheless, the point is valid.

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samgrace0614 wrote:Can someone help me out? Right noe, I own a d3100. Do you think I stick to d3100 or get this one? Ive also bought 55-200mm to make it better?please advise.



If you have a fairly current SLR (which you do) and don't have a really pressing need to get another one, there's not too much reason to buy 5 year old technology.
Get over to Ken Rockwell's page and read up on the Nikon cameras you are interested in and take good stock of what it is you need to do with one.

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lwang wrote:Is this lens one of those cheepie lenses with all plastic parts? Does it at least have a metal bayonet mount?



this is indeed a cheapie plastic mount lens.

i own both the d90 and d7000, and have put 75,000 exposures on my d90, and about 35,000 on my d7000 (professional photographer, including weddings and events).

i do have this cheapie lens, but only because it came free with another lens that i ebayed a while back. my wife and I have shot probably 5k exposures with it, just to try it out.

it's actually a very good focal range for a "walkabout" lens, as you can get plenty wide enough to take scenic snaps, but also get nice tight headshot portraits, or even some decent "zoo animal" type shots. it's pretty slow on the telephoto end, but with the image stabilizer plus decent light, you'll be fine for most outdoor shots.

i've only used it once on a paid gig, and ended up getting almost zero keepers from that lens/camera setup. i changed it out after a couple hundred exposures though, so no real harm done.

the camera itself is fantastic. I've used basically every decent DSLR nikon has made, plus most of canon's at some point. after shooting for a few years on older gear, i shot with the d90 for about a year before going pro, and it's still one of my favorite cameras ever. the only reason I added the d7000 to my gigging kit is to have second body (two different bodies with two different range or types of lenses, so you can switch quickly).

I still use the d90 as my primary for shots that absolutely positively HAVE to work, because I simply trust it more.

the d7000 is fantastic, and i use it for posed, strobe/flash lit portraits and such, but i have never quite gotten as confident about its focus accuracy as I am about the d90. the d90 is dead-on 90% of the time, and when it's not dead-on, it's WAY off and I can tell immediately and take another series of shots.

the d7000 is maybe dead-on 70% of the time, and most of the time that it misses, it's only a bit off. which is actually a lot worse for me because if I cannot tell immediately that the focus is off, i'm going to end up stuck with some subpar images. that's fine for family snaps maybe, but unacceptable for paid work.

all of which is basically irrelevant to anyone on here looking to buy this camera for themselves. what matters is that the d90 is fantastic, period. the d7000 has a few paper advantages, and some real-world advantages as well (mostly better high-iso performance, but not by much). but it's also got some real-world disadvantages, some of which may only matter to a picky shooter, but some of which would also matter to anyone (the shooting mode dial... why couldn't they stick with the nice easy button like the d90 has?)

if you are the market for a d5100/d7000 or canon t4i level of camera, do NOT hesitate to pick up a d90, whether on here or from anywhere else. the only word of caution is, if you buy used, be aware that the shutter is only rated for 100,000 exposures. look for 25K or fewer.

and if you do get one elsewhere, do yourself a favor. skip this kit lens, save some cash, and pick up the sigma 17-70mm f/2.8-4 OS. absolutely fantastic walkabout lens for a real person, and i've even shot a few thousand pro photos with it. many "real" photographers will tell you to skip the kit lens and buy the little $100 50mm 1.8 prime lens, and it IS a fantastic bargain, but most real people want to be able to zoom at least a little bit, most of the time.