can this record with a dead battery while plugged into the charger/usb? That's my biggest complaint about build in non-replacable batteries...

socks.mark wrote:The specs say 3X digital zoom.

Digital zoom and opitcal zoom are two VERY different things.

On most normal cameras (not camcorders), the lens would extend, and you'd get as good of a picture zoomed in as you would not zoomed in. This is optical zoom.

On a camcorder like this, when you zoom in, you're actually lowering the megapixels you're capturing. So it's equivalent to taking the picture with no zoom, then getting on your computer and zooming in on it. This is digital zoom.

This device only has digital zoom, which is less desirable.

Less desirable? How about outrageously bad? Digital zoom is a scam. It is merely in-camera cropping, which greatly degrades the image,

Can anyone with some experience tell me how this compares to the Sony Bloggie Touch that Woot had on sale for about the same price a little while ago?

cjseattle wrote:It doesn't appear to come with an AC cable or USB cable, and all charging comes through the built in USB. I have a desktop iMac, and this seems like it would be a pain given the location of the USB ports on my machine. Anyone have an opinion on plugging into an iMac, both for power and transferring video?

A USB extension cable would be the obvious choice.

If you don't already have one laying around from something else, they only cost a buck or two.

Is this waterproof?

Specifically, can I put it in a toilet?

Thanks.

Does this camera come with the software to transfer video from computer to a CDR?

iGGz wrote:Is this waterproof?

Specifically, can I put it in a toilet?

Thanks.

Weird.

radi0j0hn wrote:Less desirable? How about outrageously bad? Digital zoom is a scam. It is merely in-camera cropping, which greatly degrades the image,

I would still rather have some digital zoom capabilities than have no zoom at all.

jmbunkin wrote:I would still rather have some digital zoom capabilities than have no zoom at all.

It's a free country.

iGGz wrote:Is this waterproof?

Specifically, can I put it in a toilet?

Thanks.

Yes, but the videos may come come out a bit yellow.

evasheva wrote:Can anyone with some experience tell me how this compares to the Sony Bloggie Touch that Woot had on sale for about the same price a little while ago?

There were, again, mixed reviews, primarily about the poor touch screen. Sony digital consumer products always scare me, as they often have a bad case of "the proprietaries."

radi0j0hn wrote:The more removable things you have, the more openings are needed and the more seals can fail.

At this price point I do not expect this thing to last long under water. In fact it is only rated at 10 ft. If you really want to go under, you need a better depth rating and certainly you are going to pay more. I would consider this water resistant based solely on the reviews that have already been placed plus, the price. Water resistant is really great and I like that but again, you can not change out the battery and to me that is a big CON.

Let's look at what it really is and what it has to offer. No optical zoom. No problem for me, you should not expect that in a camera this price and of course this size. No flash. Big deal, I do not believe this camera was made to be a stand alone camera. I would not even think of buying this or any of the competitors products in this grouping as a stand alone. But these things do have a place for many. In your pocket and ready to go. Decent results in good light. Keeps you from missing some actions you may have otherwise. But again, when the battery goes and as all of them do, it will, you have to either trash it or send it back. I am willing to be the cost on battery replacement by sending it back is way more that it would be worth. So, just saying, internal batteries have some major drawbacks to many, me being one.

radi0j0hn wrote:It's a free country.

Well the fact does remain at today's technology, you are not going to see an optical zoom in a camera this size. Today, that is just not available. Not at the depth of these cameras anyway. So if an optical zoom is your sole priority this is certainly not for you. Frankly, even though I have a similar camera by Sony I do understand the importance of optics. That is why these things make great back up cameras and/or quick candid shots. If you want more than that, go to or stick with your hand held video cam with real optics. However, there is definitely a place for these type cameras.

charliecarroll wrote:Well the fact does remain at today's technology, you are not going to see an optical zoom in a camera this size. Today, that is just not available. Not at the depth of these cameras anyway. So if an optical zoom is your sole priority this is certainly not for you. Frankly, even though I have a similar camera by Sony I do understand the importance of optics. That is why these things make great back up cameras and/or quick candid shots. If you want more than that, go to or stick with your hand held video cam with real optics. However, there is definitely a place for these type cameras.

I agree with most of your comment but would add to the mix by saying if the battery lasts a couple of years them maybe I got my money's worth out of a $40 camera.

I think this is a perfect camera for the grandchildren, cheaper then some of the toys I have bought them and who knows maybe it will interest them enough they take a real interest in photograpy!

Wooooooooooot ooooooooofffffffffff!

CowboyDann wrote:

Here is a video from youtube from Joshua Kingdom

Here is the top comment:
"Dude this is so interesting with his monotone voice... [bleep] COMMERCIAL"

CowboyDan, that guy really creeps me out...

what card should I use to get the best results? I read somewhere "class 6", whatever that means...any advice on the best card for this camera? Thanks!

claudia007 wrote:what card should I use to get the best results? I read somewhere "class 6", whatever that means...any advice on the best card for this camera? Thanks!

I bought this card from Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007XZL7PC/ref=ox_ya_os_product

claudia007 wrote:what card should I use to get the best results? I read somewhere "class 6", whatever that means...any advice on the best card for this camera? Thanks!

The link provided in the previous message is the same card I just bought. The Amazon product page for this Samsung camcorder recommends a regular SDHC memory card, which is INCORRECT. You have to have the microSDHC card. A lot of folks bought the recommended bundle on Amazon, and they weren't happy about it. Amazon still hasn't corrected the page.

WOOT shipped me a couple W190's instead of W200's.

I want my additional 10 W's. Times 2.

madjimbo wrote:WOOT shipped me a couple W190's instead of W200's.
I want my additional 10 W's. Times 2.

I just opened my box now and also got the W190 instead of the W200. I haven't looked yet to see what the difference is between the two models. Do you know what the differences are(other than woot advertising to sell us one and that we received a different model)?

pentiumjen wrote:I just opened my box now and also got the W190 instead of the W200. I haven't looked yet to see what the difference is between the two models. Do you know what the differences are(other than woot advertising to sell us one and that we received a different model)?

Looked at my 3 that I purchased. Also W190. Seems as if we have an issue here.

W190
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-W190-5-5MP-Pocket-Camcorder/dp/B006KDQFLY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1348505966&sr=8-1&keywords=w190+samsung

W200
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-HMX-W200-Waterproof-Recording-2-4-inch/dp/tech-data/B004W81AI2/ref=de_a_smtd

It looks like the W200 has 1x optical zoom and is more expensive. I don't see any reference to W190 having the 1x optical zoom. The W190 also was supposed to come with a 4GB microSD card. So not exactly the same thing....

Can someone who also received a W190 please confirm that the record/pause feature works. Wiki answers has a post saying the w190 is missing this feature, but are "unsure about it" (and I'm skeptical they would remove this).

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_the_samsung_w190_and_w200

I would test it myself but my W190 arrived DOA. Charge light comes on, but even pressing the reset button after charging for hours doesn't work (the screen never lights and the device is never recognized on the computer).

I'd really like to be confirm the W190 is equivalent to the W200 before I contact Samsung again. Thanks!

I got my two cameras in today. Both are w190s, and neither of them had memory cards.

Both seem to work so far. Not bad for $40. I plan to use these for a balloon launch.

cptdevine wrote:I got my two cameras in today. Both are w190s, and neither of them had memory cards.

Both seem to work so far. Not bad for $40. I plan to use these for a balloon launch.

If you find anything missing from what you were promised to get, please contact service@woot.com so they can help you out.

inkycatz wrote:If you find anything missing from what you were promised to get, please contact service@woot.com so they can help you out.

No memory card was mentioned in the woot item description, I got exactly what I paid for.